The I Found It! Variant #1
I vowed I wouldn't do extensive commenting in all of these, but it's
just something I can't really resist. It's far too tempting. Sorry (unless,
of course, you happen to like the comments; then I am extremely happy).
At least this one appears to have used a spell checker on his article.
"From: xxxxxxxxxx@aol.com
Newsgroups: xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: NO NONSENSE EASY CASH!!!
Date: 30 Nov 1996 21:45:01 GMT
Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
Lines: 240
Message-ID: [19961130214600.QAA02264@LADDER01.NEWS.AOL.COM]
NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com
X-Admin: news@aol.com"
"You have to read this..."
Do I? Well, OK, if it's required....
"This is not one of those Get Rich Quick Schemes or mail-order Schemes."
Whew! Had me worried there for a minute. But if this turns out to be another one of those, I'm gonna be pissed.
"But enough to pay off your debts and who knows, you could be test driving the new Mercedes in the next three months."
Pardon me for asking... but I didn't realize I needed money to test drive a car. Perhaps they've changed the rules since I bought my Lexus, which, by the way, I happen to have liked better than the Mercedes.
"If you're too eager to read what this is about then go right to the Instruction Section at the bottom of this article."
No, no.... I'm fascinated... wouldn't dream of missing a word of this, especially as it's not a get rich quick scheme.
"READ ON. If it doesn't make sense, read it again and again until it does! "
I'm not sure I have that much time left in my lifetime, but I can certainly pass it along to my children and their children to see if they can make any sense of it.
"*******************************************************************
(If you're reading this on-line, I suggest that you QUICKLY download it
to your hard drive FIRST, just in case some do-gooder takes it off the news
board."
Yes, those nasty ol' censors are everywhere. They certainly wouldn't want to see a legitimate article that can help someone like this up on any public forum. I'm sure that they will get rid of it as soon as possible. After all, they ARE do-"gooders," as you say. But how does the statement that a do-"gooder" will remove this article reconcile with it being a legitimate thing to do? Wouldn't a do-"gooder" want to leave anything legitimate and legal alone? And I can see where if they did that, it would wipe it from the memory of your computer where it resides as you read it, causing it to instantly disappear from your screen.
"You can always read it with a text editor, like Windows Notepad. Also, you will find this copy on your disk to be most useful, as you will later see. Just use the File: Save As command.)"
Ah.. I see. I had no idea what that menu command did before now. Thank you.
"Let me start"
Didn't you start several paragraphs ago?
"by saying that I FINALLY FOUND IT! "
Congratulations on finding it. Had you lost it? Well, sorry to have asked that, because it's obvious you have. [snicker]
"That's right! I found it! "
OK, ok already. You found it. No need to confirm your own statement with "That's right!" I didn't expect you to contradict yourself immediately [I do expect you to do so later, however. Time will tell].
"And I HATE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!!"
Good thing this isn't one. How long did you say it would take me to make this money? 4 to 6 weeks? For $50,000? I can see that that is nowhere near my idea of "quick" for that amount of money.
"I hate those schemes like multi-level marketing, mail-order schemes, envelope stuffing scams, 900 number scams... "
Yes, I can tell that you are one of those.
"the list goes on forever. "
Wow. Forever? Really? Do you have enough paper for your list? Can I send you a ream or fifty?
"I have tried every darn get rich quick scheme out there over the past 12 years."
Why, oh why doesn't that surprise me? Every one, huh?
"I somehow got on mailing lists for people looking to make money"
I can't for the life of me understand how that could have happened. Any clues yet?
"(more like 'desperate stupid people who will try anything for money!')."
Hmmm... now there's a claim I can live with.
"Well, when I was a teenager, these claims to 'get me rich quick' sounded irresistible!"
I see. And fortunately, they don't any more, is that what you are saying?
"I would shell out $14.95 here, $29.95 there, $24.95 here, and another $49.95 there. I had maxed out my new Circuit City Card AND my Visa..."
Yes, using credit can do that to irresponsible people. Where does this tie in with me? You seem to be on a list with a whole lot of other people that have Circuit City cards maxed out. Is it some sort of subliminal or chemical control they have in their stores? Do they hold a gun to your head?
"I was desperate for money!!"
Yup. I can see that I should be crying right along with you on this one.
"So, I gave them all a chance but failed at every one of them!"
Again, somehow both parts of that statement fail to amaze, or even surprise, me.
"Maybe they worked for some people, but not for me. Eventually, I just tossed that JUNK MAIL in the trash when I got the mail. I recognized it right away. I can smell a money scam from a mile away these days,"
I can tell. And you react like a trout to a caddisfly, obviously. Pretty good nose you have there.
"SO I THOUGHT.... I thought"
Uh.... ahhh..... uhm.... You?... Think? ::maniacal laughter::
"I could sniff out a scam easily."
Yes, we already saw you have a good nose for these things.
"WAS I WRONG!!"
Yes, but not quite in the way you meant.
"...I LOVE THE INTERNET!!!"
Uh... what's that got to do with usenet postings? They're not the same, you know. No, of course you don't. Forgive me.
"I was scanning thru a NEWSGROUP and saw an article stating to GET CASH FAST!! I thought... Here on the Internet?? Well, I'll just have to see what schemes could possibly be on the internet."
Same as they are everywhere else. I think Moses got one of these things - you know, "Take this thou list, send it thense to 5 other people, include one of thine goats and a stone tablet saying 'please includest thou me on thine commandment mailing list.' You shalt then within thy very next month make 50,000 goats."
"The article described a way to MAIL A ONE DOLLAR BILL TO ONLY FIVE PEOPLE AND MAKE $50,000 IN CASH WITHIN 4 WEEKS! "
I can describe a way to turn lead into gold, too. Want to hear it?
"Well, the more I thought about it,"
"thought"..... Hahahahahaha! At least you have a sense of humor.
"the more I became very curious."
You are quite curious, you know what I mean?
"Why? Because of the way it worked AND BECAUSE IT WOULD ONLY COST ME FIVE DOLLARS (AND FIVE STAMPS), THAT'S ALL I EVER PAY.... EVER!!"
Excluding new ISP signup fees, legal and court costs, dealer prep and destination charges.
"Ok, so the $50,000 in cash was maybe a tough amount to reach,"
Kind of an understatement, don't you think?
"but it was possible. I figured that I could at least get a return of $1,000 or so. So I did it!!"
No kidding. As we see.
"As per the instructions in the article, I mailed out ('snail mail' for you e-mail fanatics)"
Thank you for that definition and clarification. I probably would have tried to stuff the $1 bills into my modem.
"a single dollar bill to each of the five people on the list that was contained in the article. I included a small note, with the dollar, that stated .Please Add Me To Your List."
Whooops! We've been doing fairly well up to now, but your grammar checker threw a gear out there.
"I then removed the first position name of the five names listed and moved everyone up one position, and I put my name in position five of the list. "This is how the money starts rolling in!"
It starts rolling in because you moved names on the list? Say - can I just move names on the list and get money? I thought I had to get others to send me their (excuse me, my [you know, share the wealth!] money).
"I then took this revised article now with my name on the list and REPOSTED IT ON AS MANY NEWSGROUPS AND LOCAL BULLETIN BOARD MESSAGE AREAS THAT I KNEW."
That would be, then, why your ISP got so many complaints. Of course, it was AOL, so we can understand where you're coming from.
"I then waited to watch the money come in... prepared to maybe receive about $1000 to $1500 in cash or so...."
Optimism is such a nice thng to have.
"But what a welcome surprise when those envelopes kept coming in!!! I knew what they were as soon as I saw the return addresses from people all over the world"
That's what distinguished them from the thousands of other letters you normally receive, huh?
" - Most from the U.S., but some from Canada, even some from Australia! I tell you, THAT WAS EXCITING!!"
Maybe you could get a penpal in Australia and life would be more exciting for you consistently if that's what gets you excited.
"So how much did I get in total return? $1000? $5000? Not even!!!"
That I can well believe.
"I received a total of $37,345!!! I couldn't believe it!!"
Oh, I see... the "Not Even!!!" was some sort of a reverse-negative postfix notation. $37,345, huh? Pretty good. Don't forget to let the IRS know. Oh, nevermind, I already did. Be interesting to see how you might itemize "proceeds from illegal chain letter"on your next 1040 (don't use the 1040-EZ - there's no spot for it).
"I now have a brand new black Acura Integra to speak for, due to this!!"
I'm glad you're sticking to the formula. Those other guys never mentioned the black Accura. With so many of you winning big at this thing and buying black Accuras, would it be a safe assumption (you know, the kind that you seem to make) that all black Accuras are owned by people who have "shared the wealth"?. It is, however, nice to see you can speak for it. Does it usually have much to say?
"Now after almost 8 months, I am ready to do it again!!!"
Why so long? I would think that black Accura had made a pretty good dent in your $37,345, and that with the kind of lifestyle you live (maxed out credit cards, etc.) that you would have been back for more sooner. Just not greedy, I suppose. Good for you.
"So maybe it was possible to get $50,000 in cash,"
It's possible that the drop in temperature during the winter months simultaneously with the tilting away from the sun of the Earth's axis is just a mere coincidence, too.
"I don't know,"
That statement of yours could probably be applied to a large number of topics.
" but IT COMPLETELY DEPENDS ON YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL! "
And how many illegal risks you wish to take.
"You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of!"
Even in my kitty's litter box? I think that would make it stink worse than it does.
"The more postings you achieve will determine how much cash will arrive in your very own mailbox!! It's just too easy to pass up!!!"
Oh, it's very easy for me to pass up. You certainly got that right.
"Let's review the reasons why you should do this: The only cost factors are for the five stamps, the 5 envelopes and the 5 one dollar bills that you send out to the listed names by snail mail (US Postal Service Mail)."
Let's review the reasons why you shouldn't. It's illegal, it's immoral, it's unethical, it's a scam, it hurts other people, and it is mathematically impossible for it to work beyond the first 8 people that do it, even if the numbers quoted are 100% true as to response and everyone on the planet particitpated. You can go to jail, face a large fine, have many hundreds of people flaming you, lose your account on your ISP, and suffer incredible ridicule. Shall I go on?
"Then just simply repost the article (WITH YOUR NAME ADDED)"
Well, of course. You wouldn't think that after all this work for such little money that I would forget to put my name on the list, do you? Sheesh. What kind of a moron do you take me for?
"to all the newsgroups and local BBS's you can."
Ah, yes, don't forget your local BBS - that way, you can have people in your own community know what an idiot you are, and possibly driving over to the address you so thoughtfully gave them to tell you so to your face.
"Then sit back and, (ironically), enjoy walking (you can run if you like! :o )"
Ha! Ha! What a sense of humor. So witty, too. Oscar Wilde had nothing on you.
"down your driveway to your mailbox and scoop up your rewards!! "
You'll probably need a scoop (shovel). At $50,000 in 4 weeks, that's about 12,500 pieces of mail a week, or 2,083 a day (No delivery on Sunday, you know). I'm sure the post office would never suspect a thing. Whooops! I forgot - we're legal here, so there's no problem. You might want to call them ahead of time and warn them to put on extra staff, though. That would really be helpful for them and thoughtful of you. You might want to hire on someone at minimum wage to assist you in opening all those envelopes, too (don't worry, you'll be able to afford it)... there's only 1,440 minutes in a day, so you're going to be opening one letter about every 41 seconds 24 hours a day. Well, you can sleep on Sunday when there's no mail delivery.
"We all have five dollars to put into such an easy effortless investment with SPECTACULAR REALISTIC RETURNS OF $15,000 to $25,000 in about 3-5 weeks! So HOLD OFF ON THOSE LOTTERY NUMBERS FOR TODAY, EAT AT HOME TONIGHT INSTEAD OF TAKEOUT FROM McDONALDS AND INVEST FIVE DOLLARS IN THIS AMAZING MONEY MAKING SYSTEM NOW!!! YOU CAN'T LOSE!!"
:: Holding eardrums :: OW! No need to shout it so loud. I can hear you without shouting at me. Oh, I forgot, just like those other guys and gals, LOUDNESS == veracity.
"So how do you do it exactly, you ask?"
I didn't, actually.
"I have carefully provided the most detailed,"
Oh, joy.
"yet straight-forward"
I have yet to find that those two descriptions are anything but mutally exclusive.
"instructions on how to easily get this underway and get your cash on its way. SO, ARE YOU READY TO MAKE SOME CASH!!!??"
Not this way, but thank you very much for your kind offer.
"HERE WE GO!!!"
I was wondering when you would slip that in. Still no need to shout, though. Finally getting down to what everyone else does in the first ten thousand words or so, huh?
"********************************************************************
*** (THE LIST OF NAMES IS AT THE END OF THIS ARTICLE.) ***
OK, Read this carefully."
I sure wouldn't want to be careless about something this important.
"Get a printout of this information, if you like, so you can easily refer to it as often as needed. "
OK. Done. Is that it? My, you were straight-forward!
"(Not that it's difficult or anything.)"
That's a given, if you were able to complete it.
"INSTRUCTIONS:
1. Take a sheet of paper and write on it the following: Please add my name to your list. This creates a service out of this money making system and thus makes it completely legal. You are not just randomly sending a dollar to someone, you are paying one dollar for a legitimate service. "
We've been all through this before with those other guys.... Can't you find some other flimsy leg to try to stand on? Oh, well, here goes again [everyone follow the bouncing ball and chant along with me]... on the US Postal Inspectors' Service page, it says:"Do not be fooled if the chain letter is used to sell inexpensive reports on credit, mail order sales, mailing lists, or other topics. The primary purpose is to take your money, not to sell information. 'Selling' a product does not ensure legality."
(Cha-cha-cha)
"Make sure you include your name and address. I assure you that, again, this is completely legal!"
I see. Yes, yes, it must be that the Postmaster General and his opinions were all wrong. I can't imagine why you keep assuring me it's legal. Is there a reason why I shouldn't have believed you the first few times?
"For a neat little twist, also write what slot their name was in: You were in slot , just to add a little fun! This is all about having fun and making money at the same time! "
What fun! Gosh, I think I'll give up skiing, skydiving, scuba, computers (wait, can't give that up and still do this), tennis. golf, fishing, hunting, and all my other recreational activities so I can have such fun.
"2. Now fold this sheet of paper around a dollar bill, (no checks or money orders), and put them into an envelope and send it on its way to the five people listed. The folding of the paper around the bill will ensure its arrival to its recipient."
Yes, that's a complete assurance of that, alright.
"THIS STEP IS IMPORTANT!! (Otherwise, some unscrupulous mail delivery person may see what's inside and start helping himself to all the thousands of envelopes arriving!)"
Well, they read my Shotgun News, but I can't actually accuse them of stealing letters. Now losing them is a different matter entirely, especially here. But I can see that the paper wrapped around the bill will prevent that. Maybe yours just wanted to get some evidence for the Postal Inspector (to show him that this really isn't illegal, and how well it works, of course)
"3. Now listen carefully,"
YESSIR!!!
"here's where you get YOUR MONEY COMING TO YOUR MAILBOX."
I thought you had to send the letters out first.
"Look at the list of five people; remove the first name from position one and move everyone on the list up one slot on the list. Position #2's name will now move to the position #1 slot, position #3 will now become position #2, #4 will be #3, #5 will be #4."
I'm sure glad you itemized that, I don't think I could have dealt with it otherwise. Why the shouting again, though?
"Now put your name, address, zipcode AND COUNTRY in position #5, the bottom position on the list."
Nice touch, that "AND COUNTRY." I see the others have missed it - this will certainly make sure that those $1 U.S. bills from Outer Mongolia will get to you correctly. Still no need to shout, though. Oh-oh. I see more shouting coming up in your next paragraph. Let me get my hearing protectors out.
"4. Now upload this updated file to as many newsgroups and local bulletin boards, message areas file sections as possible."
Yes, take up as much storage space and bandwidth as you possibly can.
"Give a catchy description of the file so it gets noticed!!"
This ensures instant retaliation, so don't miss this step.
"Such as: & quot;NEED FAST CASH?, HERE IT IS! or NEED CASH TO PAY OFF YOUR DEBTS??, etc."
Somebody's newsreader burped. Could have been yours, could have been mine. Probably yours, since mine doesn't need to use HTML markup for quote characters. Surprised you didn't catch it, actually. Your spelling has been almost impeccable, and compared to many other articles I have seen, your punctuation and grammar has been almost without reproach. Too bad the same can't be said for your logic or content.
"And the more uploads, the more money you will make,"
...the more people you will piss off, the more chance of having your internet service yanked, being fined, going to jail....
" and of course, the more money the others on the list will make too. LET'S ALL TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER BY BEING HONEST AND BY PUTTING FORTH 120 PERCENT INTO THIS PROFITABLE AMAZING SYSTEM!!!"
Oh yes! Oh yes! Let's all be honest. Let's all help each other. Uh, by the way, how does one go about putting more than the amount of anything they have into this? I don't see how I could, for example, put 120% of my 24 hour day into this. Or 120% of my typing skills. Or 120% of my modem speed or computer capacity or my efforts. Please explain how I should be able to get 1/5th more than the total amount available out of anything I want. I could really use the extra time to answer more silly articles like this. You may want to patent this method, you know.
"You'll reap the benefits, believe me!!! Set a goal for the number of total uploads you'll post, such as 15-20 postings or more!"
I thought the standard deal was 200 or more posts. I could be wrong, though. You made $37,345 from 15-20 postings? Wow. That's amazing.
"Always have a goal in mind!!!"
Actually, you have accidently stumbled on a very sound success principle. I know it was totally accidental, but a great success principle writer, Napoleon Hill, would agree with you, although he would also add that you need to decide what you are willing to give up to get it, write it down, put a firm date by which you will achieve it, memorize it, and repeat it to yourself daily.
"If you can UUE encode the file when uploading, that will make it easier for the people to receive it and have it downloaded to their hard drive."
Yes, that extra step of encoding the file sure helps everyone, especially those who are newbies and can't figure out how to do it and so never see your scam. Why not use base64, though? It seems to give even more people trouble.
"That way they get a copy of the article right on their computer without hassles of viewing and then saving the article from the File menu. "
Yes, that "Save" command is tricky for some.
"DON'T ALTER THE FILE TYPE, leave it as an MS-DOS Text file."
Sure.... it's particularly helpful to do this on Unix, Macintosh, Apple II, Commodore, Atari, and other computers. Of course, we all know that no one uses those other computers anymore anyway, don't we?
"The best test is to be able to view this file using Microsoft's Notepad for Windows 3.x or WordPad for Windows '95. "
I haven't seen any of those on the Macintosh shelves, or in the shareware archives. Can you point me to them?
"(Do NOT use the WordWrap option. It will screw the margins up!) If the margins look right without making the screen slide left or right when at the ends of the sentences, you're in business! "
Your screen slides when the lines are too long? Wow. That must be hard to read if the screen keeps sliding back and forth.
"5. If you need help uploading, simply ask the sysop of the BBS, or POST a message on a newsgroup asking how to post a file, tell them who your Internet provider is and PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE GLAD TO HELP."
Yes! Yes! Please ask for help in posting your illegal internet chain letter from as many places as possible, and be sure to tell them who your ISP is. This will help the rest of us tremendously! Really! No kidding!
"I would try to describe how to do it but there are simply too many internet software packages with slightly different yet relatively simple ways to post or upload a file."
Whew. I thought for a minute there you were going to tell us how to do it with your favorite newsreader. Thank you for sparing us the Netscrape Details. Oh, I forgot. you are on AOL - they don't even have a newsreader that is that advanced in design yet.
"Just ask for help or look in the help section for 'posting'. I do know that for GNN, you simply select 'POST' then enter a catchy description under the subject box, choose 'ATTACH', selecting 'UUE' and NOT 'TXT', then choose 'Browse' to go look for the file. Find your text file, i.e. CASH.TXT, and click on it and choose 'OK'. Place a one line statement in the main body section of the message post screen."
Uh, I thought you weren't going to give us details on doing that. It figures, you haven't been consistant in anything else, either (other than the decent spelling for a change).
"Something like 'Download this to read how to get cash arriving in your mailbox with no paybacks!' or whatever."
Yes, that's a good'un!
"Just make sure it represents its true feasibility,"
Yes, of course. How stupid of me to think to put something like "NO NONSENSE EASY CASH!!!!"
"NOT something like... Get one million dollars flooding in your mailbox in two days! You'll never get ANY responses!"
Well, certainly. That's obvious. You have to wait at least a month for your million dollars. But I am sure if you needed it sooner and went down to the bank with an explanation of what you are doing they would be happy to give you a personal, unsecured line of credit for that amount, seeing as how it's a sure thing. They'll probably want to get involved, too. I mean, that interest stuff is cool, but when they find out that there is this easy of a way, and this legitimate of a way to make that much money, I'm sure they will devote a majority of their computer resources just to doing this. I'm sure that they just missed out on this concept for the hudreds of years that banking has been in existance, and your enlightening them will revolutionize banking around the world. They will probably even reward you for bringing the idea up to them. That's even more fast easy cash for you, and you won't even have to walk (or run :o) to your mailbox.
"6. And this is the step I like. JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY LIFE BECAUSE CASH IS ON ITS WAY!! "
I'll forgive the shouting this time, because I can see how exciting this is. I can't wait to try it out as soon as I get my next lifetime.
"Expect to see a little money start to trickle in around 2 weeks, but AT ABOUT WEEKS 3 and 4, THE MONEY STORM WILL HIT YOUR MAILBOX!!"
I'd better get a bigger mailbox, then. Put it on my to do list right away, I will. Who knows, it might be less than 3 weeks when the storm hits.
"All you have to do is take it out of the mailbox"
You don't have to open the envelopes? Wow, this is easier than I thought.
"and try not to scream too loud (outside anyway)"
Or loudly. Or, preferrably, in the newsgroups and your article, either.
"when you realize YOU HIT THE BIG TIME AT LAST!!"
Or when you realize you have committed a felony, stolen from other people, had your ISP turn off your access, and other nice things that can happen to you.
"7. So go PAY OFF YOUR BILLS AND DEBTS and then get that something special you always wanted"
A lobotomy?
"or buy that special person in your life (or the one you want in your life)"
"Buy The Friends You Want Now! Don't Delay -- Our One Time, Limited Special Offer Won't Last!"
"a gift they'll never forget."
You in jail or ridiculed beyond belief?
"ENJOY LIFE!"
While you are still at liberty. Soon you may be bunking in a cell with "Bubba," who hasn't had a woman for years.
"8. Now when you get low on this money supply, simply re-activate this file again; Reposting it in the old places where you originally posted and possibly some new places you now know of."
Yes, all those people who saw it the first time might actually believe it this time.
"Don't ever lose this file, always keep a copy at your reach for when you ever need cash. "
I won't! I won't! God alone knows where I could find another copy of it, and especially with your name at #5
"THIS IS AN INCREDIBLE TOOL THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS RE-USE TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHEN CASH IS NEEDED! "
And, like many tools, fails to perform the job. Trying to loosen a nut with a screwdriver, for instance. Speaking of nuts..... Oh, nevermind.
"******************************************************************
What that means simplified is:
1) Send $1 to the people on the list
2) Put your name on list
3) Post list everywhere you can
4) People send money to you because your name is on the list
GOT IT!
******************************************************************"
Glad you recapped and simplified that for me. I don't think I would have understood it otherwise.
" THE NAMES LIST THE NAMES LIST THE NAME
LIST
******************************************************************"
Ah, the roll call of the stupid/naive/shifty coming up
"************************************************
HONESTY IS WHAT MAKES THIS PROGRAM SUCCESSFUL!!!
************************************************"
Oh, yes! It certainly is! Anyone being dishonest here would *never* make any money.
"1. C. Fournier <
------ Notice the incredible honesty in names here
851 des Cerisiers
St-Eustache,Quebec J7R 6S9
Canada
2. P.C. < ------ it makes one's heart
swell with pride that these
7440 Tennessee Drive Apt.218
Clarendon Hills, IL 60514
USA
3. Carina < ------ folks are so honest
that they put their real, full
4605 Henri-Bourassa Apt.103
St-Laurent,Quebec, H4L 5H2
Canada
4. Skipper < ------ names on the list.
I can't help but know that they
105 Steges Rd.
Highland Lake NY 12743
5. RonRon < ------ believe fully in the
honesty of this great money producer.
4019 1/2 Eagle Rock Blvd. Read
this guy's response to my standard MMF
template
Los Angeles, CA 90065
"******************************************************************
If it didn't work, you would see posts saying so. IT DOES WORK!!!
******************************************************************"
Ah, yes, and with that same highly logical (but sadly fallacious) argument , I could say that because I see no posts claiming that the law of gravity is not a farce, I can assume it is a farce, and fly by flapping my arms.By the way, I have seen posts saying it doesn't work (from those who know no better than to reply). Where have you been? Or is your newsreader selective in only allowing the pro- articles through, but not those which contradict them?
